Progress is being made on my summer car search!

"K-Roll-PorscheTamer" (k-roll390)
06/18/2014 at 22:08 • Filed to: Summer Car

I've found four summer cars that actually look pretty nice for the price(I've decided to raise my budget to $3000, as I've noticed $3k to be quite a good number.

Here's what I've got:

1989 Ford Mustang 5.0 Manual Convertible(Red on Red! :D) $2800

http://youngstown.craigslist.org/cto/4510274709…

1985 Ford Mustang 5.0 Manual Hatch(Closest to me) $2800

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/452491…

1987 Porsche 924S Manual(RED!) $2990

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/4479750458…

1987 Porsche 944 Manual(Silver Shiny!) $2200

http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/4474235911…

1986 Pontiac Fiero Manual(The one with dat V6) $1000

http://toledo.craigslist.org/cto/4514002033…

1991 VW Corrado(The only Auto I'll acept) $2300

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/4521788474…

What say you Oppo?

DISCUSSION (83)

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 22:15

What do you want to do with it? Flip it or what?

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 22:17

If you get a Fiero, get an '88.

MC_Leon6494 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 22:18

PORSCHE!!! (924S) I looked at a really similar one actually. same year, same model. it was beat up though and like $1000 cheaper

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
06/18/2014 at 22:18

Summer car, project car. Something I can work on and improve what little car work skills I've got. Also so I can go to car shows and not feel left out because my car is "too modern".

Just something nice I'd like to have to myself, also so my dad can keep his 911 and I can have something that's mine and he can't touch it. So yeah, there are some good, bad and all around stupid reasons.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/18/2014 at 22:19

Can't find an '88 anywhere around me. I'm sure the '86 would be alright as it's not using the Iron Duke.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 22:22

Nope. The 88's got a proper suspension, and only the 88's had them.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
06/18/2014 at 22:23

But they're near impossible to find on a budget like mine. -_-

wiffleballtony > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 22:32

I don't remember the manuel trim levels before.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > wiffleballtony
06/18/2014 at 22:35

Manual..... :P

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 22:44

Depending on what it needs, this could be a pretty interesting choice. Its not fast, but you will be able to call it vintage and its pretty cheap at $1800.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/450195…

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 22:49

I feel like you don't want my help any more. Get a 944 (so we can be Porsche buddies :) Or a Corrado because VR-sex

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
06/18/2014 at 22:50

OH MY GOD! AND IT'S ORANGE!! WHERE'S BRIAN! That is simply fantastic. Who cares if it's fast in this case, it's a freaking E30!

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 22:51

E21 actually. E30 wasnt until 1983.

mcseanerson > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 22:52

Hey K-Roll where are you at? Have you ever been to autocross at wilmington pad? Also is this the same car for your dad or is this a different car?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic
06/18/2014 at 22:55

But there's also an E21, and I do appreciate the help you and the rest of Oppo have been giving me these past few week.s :)

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > mcseanerson
06/18/2014 at 22:57

I'm in Michigan, and I've never AutoXed before. these cars are the one's I'm interested in buying for myself.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
06/18/2014 at 22:58

Ah. Looks to be a very clean car. That interior is sharp and there looks to be a minor defect with the black side trim in the picture, but who could argue with a price like that!

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 22:58

I think you should get a Porsche because Porsche buddies and think of the bragging you can do "I am 18 and I own a Porsche, what have you accomplished. I have accomplished a lot."

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 23:01

Also, an e30 in this condition would be a ton more expensive.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
06/18/2014 at 23:05

Ah, ok. How much more expensive? And I'm looking at more Bimmers on the local Craigslist and I'm surprised by how many decent ones there are put here. Never even thought to look for one before.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 23:07

An E30 in this condition, depending on condition issues, could be as high as 5k. An e30 for 1800 would have some serious rust issues as well as mechanical issues.

mcseanerson > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 23:07

Ok, I'm in Ohio and I met a guy with a blue FoSt at wilmington pad. Was curious if you were that person. You should autocross by the way it's awesome. Do you have any brand preferences? I notice your list is lacking third gen f-bodies.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > mcseanerson
06/18/2014 at 23:11

Yeah you're not the only person to call me out on a lack of F-bodies. It's just that I see them as too boring, and I don't think I could see myself driving one either. My brand preferences are the following:

Ford

Porsche

Pontiac Fiero

BMW

Chevy

Dodge(if I could find a Challenger)

This is in no particular order.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
06/18/2014 at 23:12

I understand. Howabout an '82 635ci?

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 23:13

Gimmie a link.

RyanFrew > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 23:14

As someone with a 944 and Mustang...take the VW or 944. As someone who knows that your experience wrenching is still pretty limited...take the 5.0.

/nothelpfulatall

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
06/18/2014 at 23:15

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/446860…

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > RyanFrew
06/18/2014 at 23:16

How bad is the handy work on the 944?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic
06/18/2014 at 23:17

These are very good reasons for sure. But I still haven't made up my mind yet. If I hadn't discovered all these other great options I'd still be with the 944.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 23:18

Positives:

Interior is in pretty solid condition.

Low Miles

Negatives:

White.

Non-stock wheels

Auto.

Verdict: You can do better.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
06/18/2014 at 23:21

Can I just send you some of the ads I've been stockpiling?

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 23:22

Go for it.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
06/18/2014 at 23:27

Cool! Gimmie a second.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
06/18/2014 at 23:31

This is what I've got so far, I gotta go to my laptop to get the rest.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/446055…

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/cto/451906…

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/442105…

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/451552…

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/cto/452030…

mcseanerson > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 23:40

Ford I would go with fox body. Porsche I would avoid unless you want a car to spend your summer fixing instead of driving (He said 3k budget you zealots.) Fiero would be ok with any motor because honestly you wanna put a turbo 3800 in there anyways. Cheap BMWs make me nervous but are more doable than the Porsche, I've actually seen some guys drive the balls off some e36 325 faster than e36 m3 and those are fairly cheap.

Chevy I would only recommend a third gen at this price, you're not going to get a ls1 for this money and my opinion on small block chevys is ls or carb. You're not getting a Challenger for 3k.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 23:41

88 BMW: Best of the bunch, but not great for what you want.

66 Mustang: Way beyond your time, money, and likely ability level

89 Mustang: Off colored body pannels, aftermarket taillights, bad paint, needs a carb rebuild and its just rubbing me the wrong way. Guy does look desperate to sell though

83 944: Needs fuel lines and paint, pre 85.5 update. No go.

77 Comet: Rust is said way to many times. Not worth your time.

If you want classic American consider one of these.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/448588…

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/cto/444917…

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
06/18/2014 at 23:44

The rest:

http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/4487837897…

http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/4526579691…

http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/4492328009…

http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/4417723400…

http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/cto/4499636648…

http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/cto/4510478018…

http://porthuron.craigslist.org/cto/4501164210…

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
06/18/2014 at 23:46

I fear the Impala and Super 88 might not fit in the garage or driveway; which in retrospect, also means that Chrysler 300 I sent you wouldn't be practical either..

Also I am a sucker for the pre 85.5 dash style of the 944s. Even with the worse HVAC/AC I love that it's essentially a 924 interior.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > mcseanerson
06/18/2014 at 23:52

Oh I wish I could get a challenger! -_-

The Fox has gotten the most popular comments by the majority, followed by the Porsche, BMW and no one's mentioned any Chevy's other than F-bodies.

What is this Turbo 3800?

mcseanerson > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 23:54

http://limaohio.craigslist.org/cto/4507552825…

Kinja'd!!!

mcseanerson > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 23:56

http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/4478322076…

86 z/28 $3500

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/18/2014 at 23:58

Wheelbase on the Super 88 is 19 inches longer than your Focus. Impala is probably a good amount bigger

1984 318: No mention of miles is a worry. Auto trans tanks value. Lowest model

1986 944: No pics, no miles, need works. Sketchy, No go.

1986 944: High miles, looks rough around edges. Very risky buy. No interior mention

1986 Mustang: Lot of rust, thats enough for me to walk away. Frame looks okay though

1969 300: Huge, not what your looking for.

1990 325i: Rust is a question mark, sedan brings down value

1994 325i: Possible trans issues, means there is a trans issue. Avoid

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > mcseanerson
06/19/2014 at 00:00

It just doesn't appeal to me. I want to say I like it but i can't. I've never even been in a Camaro of any gen before so I've got a very biased Oppinion based on what I've seen and heard of them.

mcseanerson > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 00:01

http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/4509369460…

1980 Triumph Spitfire $3,000

Kinja'd!!!

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > mcseanerson
06/19/2014 at 00:02

Now that would be a yes. The problem is that I haven't got any way to tow it home. No car at my house has the power to do so. The FoST doesn't count either.

mcseanerson > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 00:06

Turbo 3800 is the motor from the turbo regal. Most people just take an N/A 3800, add a turbo, and swap it in.

Kinja'd!!!

Here's a swap.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > mcseanerson
06/19/2014 at 00:06

does it have a top? Because I like that more than the F-body.

mcseanerson > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 00:07

there are cheap corvairs everywhere.

mcseanerson > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 00:10

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/cto/451749…

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
06/19/2014 at 00:11

There aren't that many good cars for my budget are there. They seem to be the smallest needles in the Michigan Haystack. might even need to go to Ohio to search. What did you think of the cars I originally listed in the thread?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > mcseanerson
06/19/2014 at 00:12

Looks like it needs some body work and it's an auto.. -_-

Vicente Esteve > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 00:14

This is going to be awesome! And I like how my suggestion got there. A few notes I have to add.

The most intreaging mustang is of course the Red on Red. I dont think it would be too common actually, I am starting to feel the Five-Point-Oh vibe.

The car that is for me, the most convincing, is the 924 S Red on beige. It looks pretty damn great, and I like the Sness of it.

The Corrado is like an inner battle with me. Yes, it is a 660 Corrado in blue! But its an Auto!!! But the low miles! But the AUTO! I dont know, I would have a damn hard time.

Whatever you do man, enjoy it! Have fun! And post it on Oppo.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 00:18

To be honest, I think there are a few BMW here we have both posted that would definitely be worth looking in to a little closer. You budget is tight, but not impossible. Stop dreaming for a Porsche though, thats a nightmare waiting to happen.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vicente Esteve
06/19/2014 at 00:20

when this does happen, I'm skipping Facebook and going straight here! I've never seen a red on red mustang which is why I posted that one.

The 924S is very overpriced though. That's 944 money right there and even 944S money.

I love the Corrado but no Manual!

Such decisions.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
06/19/2014 at 00:26

I might have to change my name if I stop the Porsche dreaming.

So far the only good ones are:

The E21

The '88 BMW

The E21 does fit every part of m criteria minus power, speed and torque but maybe it can make up for it in some other way.

Are there any more BMWs out there worth looking at? Anything with a I6 (anything bigger than a 4-cylinder?) and manual? BMWs seem to be my only hope right now.

How much are vintage M-Cars going for now?

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 00:30

Idk, Ill take a look tomorrow. Make a NPOCP for the orange one tomorrow. See what everybody else thinks of it.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
06/19/2014 at 00:40

Will do. Any BMW or any vintage car that is a Coupe(2+2 seating) with an engine with more than 4 cylinders(power+torque) and a manual trans is ideal.

Dsscats > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 00:54

89 Mustang: a bit sketchy. Has some questionable mods and was originally FI but is now carbed (?).

88 E30: NOPE NOPE NOPE. Automatic verts are the worst E30s ever made. The transmission isn't terrible, but the body roll and flex on verts is insanely bad.

"Sport edition" 944: there's no way in hell that's a $2500 car. At $1900, maybe. At $1500, definitely

Mercury comet: this thing will never run or be just right.

Mustang: this is very project level. Don't expect it to run by the end of the summer.

Over all? Keep looking

Dsscats > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 01:03

84 E30: No mileage listed. Looks a bit scammy to me. Otherwise, not terrible.

944: could they have put any less info? Also, needs brake work, but cab drive it home?

Red 944: meh. Looks decent.

86 Fox Body: Holy fender rust, batman! Just know that you will almost never be able to fix that.

Chrysler 300: do you have a place to do engine work or a cheap mechanic? If so, NP.

1990 E30: if you think you can take on the engine work, it's a great deal. If not, it's a never ending nightmare.

Last E30: trans issues? That'll cost $1500 more to fix.

My overall thoughts? Stay away from 944s and E30s unless you are ready to do some serious and seriously expensive engine work. At this price, youre not looking at well maintained cars, and that won't be fun in the long run. I know everyone thinks of E30s as all mechanical and reliable, but its a myth. Go for something reliableish or easy to work on (especially something with a Chevy 350 because of cheap power and parts availability) like an old Supra or Honda CVCC. It won't be as Jalop, but it'll be a much better experience.

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 01:45

Do what you wish I probably won't get the 924.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic
06/19/2014 at 08:30

why aren't you getting the 924? :(

JEM > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 10:24

That red Mustang looks beat - and an auto convertible with straight pipes makes me think it was owned by a deaf idiot who hooned it to death. Avoid.

The black one looks in nice shape, replacing floor pans is a decent little project and not a big deal if there aren't any other problems. I like that one because it's been mildly upgraded and looks to have been upkept pretty well.

Vicente Esteve > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 10:34

All your points are exactly mine! Damn, why did that Corrado have an Auto.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
06/19/2014 at 11:08

Here's the NPoCP thread for the E21, and I added two other cars I found at the bottom.

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/photo-looks-go…

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 11:28

I called 3 damn days ago and I haven't heard back. I am Scirocco or rat rod bound.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic
06/19/2014 at 11:39

Ooh! I like Sciroccos. Did you email the seller as well?

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 11:42

No he said to call him.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic
06/19/2014 at 11:44

I see. Sorry to hear that it didn't work out. Things aren't better over here either.

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 11:44

No he said to call him. Here is he Rat rod http://appleton.craigslist.org/cto/4526680433…

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 11:46

What do you think of the rat rod?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic
06/19/2014 at 11:53

I know nothing about RRs. But guess it looks like a good car to make your own. But if it rains or snows is imagine you'd be screwed. :p

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 11:57

This is true.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic
06/19/2014 at 12:01

What about a Fiero? :p

Lol

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 12:17

LOL no I don't want to be on fire and wet because it runs low on oil and the weather stripping sucks.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic
06/19/2014 at 12:19

weather stripping sucks? Can't it be replaced?

And only the 4-cylinder cars from '84-85 can catch fire. If you get a V6 from '86-88 and especially an '88 with the newer suspension then you're golden.

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 12:26

All 4 cylinder models could combust. 88 is the best and last year. Weather stripping does suck. Maybe you could replace it?

RyanFrew > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/19/2014 at 14:30

Easier than the average Porsche, by virtue of the front engine layout. Harder than the average car, by virtue of being a Porsche.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
06/19/2014 at 20:16

I've found some potentially decent Mustangs to look at, what do you think of these?

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/ive-found-poss…

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/21/2014 at 11:55

I found this, maybe it fits what you want. http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/cto/4489654765…

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/23/2014 at 14:25

Also, found another option, this thing is seriously cool. Albeit a bit sketchy.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/cto/450606…

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
06/23/2014 at 14:48

Looks a tad bit sketchy. I'd be interested if it weren't for the unfair fact that Because of my dad and WW2, I am not allowed to have a car made by a Japanese maker(which is weird because Porsche is just fine -_-)

Oh and I forgot to tell you about that 944 I found, this one is just about damn near perfect.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
06/23/2014 at 16:01

Link?

Also, not sure how important ascetics are to you but this is one dope as hell Gran Torino. Ad claims it runs and drives.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/451014…

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis
06/23/2014 at 16:14

I don't have a link to it because it was given to me via email, but here's what it says:

1984 Porsche 944

Porsche "Sport" seats(The seats will look like this, not sure how worn though)

Kinja'd!!!

Porsche Red(Guards Red)

Tab replaced the timing belt, motor mounts and a gasket when I bought the car.

The prior owner replaced the clutch shortly before he had to sell the car as a result of a job loss.

I think I have fewer than 5,000 on the car from the time I bought it.

NOTE: the 1984 is on-turbo, but it is easier to work on.

Bought car in 2008

The car has always been garage kept and doesn't appear to have any rust.

I am looking for somewhere around $3000 to $3500.

Kinja'd!!!

As much as the early-style dash is imperfect and inefficient with the AC and HVAC controls, and the radio placement is very poor, I still prefer the looks of it compared to the late style dash. The way I see it any 944 will be expensive in some way, with only marginal differences in cost.

That Gran Torino is very cool though. Bookmarked as well.